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Ava Goes Live with W. Kamau Bell (plus bonus playlist!)

On Denzel Washington, 80s hair metal bands and the challenges of navigating people with different political opinions.

The last time I talked with W. Kamau Bell before today was on his podcast “Denzel Washington Is The Greatest Actor Of All Time Period.” Picking things up on Substack felt like a full-circle moment. And full of laughs too.

We chatted about how to manage differences of opinion on politics and culture, as well as talked about Black Twitter, pink T-shirts, 80s hair metal bands and Denzel Washington, of course! Yep, any conversation where you get to mention Winger, Ratt and Scorpion, alongside Mo Betta Blues and The Whispers is a worthy one in my book!

This conversation was all over the place and that’s what made it fun. Big thanks to Kamau, and to the 800+ folks who tuned in like

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And for good measure, here’s a playlist inspired by our chat. Enjoy!

Onward!

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